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EYE-BALL’s Harry’ Growl on – The 2012 US Presidential Election Part II – The Fallout – the GOP beating up on itself –

November 10, 2012
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Title:
– The 2012 US Presidential Election Part ii –
– The Fallout – the GOP beating up on itself –
| Author: EYE-BALL’s Harry’s Growl | 10th Nov 2012 |
The 2012 US Election came and went and the $6 billion spend to see Obama re-elected was money spent on a relief party for the US citizens now facing the reality of what it all means.

Nothing has changed – Romney finished with 203 Electoral votes, 30 more than John McCain four years ago.The last count on the popular vote for the President is 61.2 million, and Romney 58.3 million – see Politico link here.

The Tea Party:

Reading some of the post-election commentary emanating for the GOP and the ‘Tea Party’ faction, creates a viewpoint that the USA can’t help themselves.   They love the ‘blame-game’ and to read one senior Tea Party excuse for the defeat – see below –

Tea party leader calls for cease fire


| Author: KATIE GLUECK | Date: Nov 9th, 2012 (USA)| Link to On-Line Story. |

A prominent tea party leader is pleading with Republicans to stop the blame game after Tuesday’s disastrous results and focus on fixing the party’s “branding problem.”

“I don’t think there’s ever a time to have circular firing squads, going out and beating each other up in the media,” Amy Kremer, the chairman of the Tea Party Express, told POLITICO. “I mean, Republicans, conservatives, everyone. We need to figure this out. It’s not going to be something that’s figured out today, not going to be figured out tomorrow. It’s going to take a lot of communication and discussing, it’s going to take a while to figure it out.”

Kremer said that lobbing accusations back and forth in the media is not “helpful,” but noted that Election Day was a major wake-up call.

“There’s always Monday morning quarterbacking, but to go out and beat each other up in the media is not helpful,” she said, adding that she was “completely shocked” by the election’s results.

“There’s plenty of blame to go around, but at the end of the day, the Republican Party has a branding problem,” she added in an interview.

Echoing a diverse chorus of Republican voices, Kremer cited changing demographics and the need to address immigration reform, though the fiscally focused Tea Party Express doesn’t take a position on immigration policy, Kremer said. She also said that the party needed to be more aggressive in promoting its message. She praised Paul Ryan for a trip he took to Florida, soon after being tapped as Romney’s running mate, to explain his Medicare position plan with his mother by his side.

“They need to do more of that,” she said of GOP candidates. “They need to be out there. You don’t win a game by always playing defense. You have to go on offense.”

Not everyone embraces that conciliatory post-election approach advocated by Kremer. A livid statement from another major tea party group, the Tea Party Patriots, was released at about 11:30 on the night of the election. In it, National Coordinator Jenny Beth Martin blasted Mitt Romney and the Republican “establishment.”

“What we got was a weak moderate candidate, handpicked by the Beltway elites and country-club establishment wing of the Republican Party,” Martin charged in the statement. “The presidential loss is unequivocally on them. While it might take longer to restore America’s founding principles with President [Barack] Obama back in office, we are not going away. With the catastrophic loss of the Republican elite’s handpicked candidate — the tea party is the last best hope America has to restore America’s founding principles.”

Read more:

Who is National Coordinator Jenny Beth Martin?   How important is she to the future of the party?

For Party members to come out and trash your own Party and the selection process that gave them Romney – is short-sighted and one of the reasons they are where they are.   Nobody wants to look at themselves as the reason or cause of what happened.  Can you imagine that happened in Australia – hang on it does – Clive Palmer beating up on Campbell Newman for example and vice versa.

Where will the Tea Party go now … who cares … the USA style politics is a spent force – the reality of Leaders having to swallow their posture and strut for the good of the Nation is what is needed – can you see major political USA personalities taking a back seat to get done what needs to be done … that will be the test in coming months.

Oliver Stone:

Movie Director/Producer Oliver Stone has weighed into the debate with a new documentary series based on his book titled – “The Untold History of the United States” – Stone has done a deal with ‘Showtime’ to serialised the story into a 10 part documentary to be aired over coming weeks.  The ‘Politico’ story on this is copied below:

Oliver Stone: ‘I find Obama scary’


| Author: PATRICK GAVIN | Date: Nov 9th, 2012 (USA)| Link to On-Line Story. |

Each presidential cycle gets shrouded in the ultimate question, “Are you better off than you were four years ago?”

In Oliver Stone’s new book — “The Untold History of the United States” — the filmmaker, along with historian Peter Kuznick, argues that, “The country Obama inherited was indeed in shambles, but Obama took a bad situation and, in certain ways, made it worse.”

Much of Stone and Kuznick’s book focuses on the threats posed by government secrecy and militarism throughout history and, in an interview with POLITICO Friday, Stone said that things aren’t getting better.

“It’s scarier,” said Stone. “I grew up under Eisenhower … and it’s gotten scarier because of the Bush and Reagan people and now I find Obama scary in a way that I had not done in 2008.” Stone cited reports of American drone attacks in Yemen and Pakistan as examples, as well as the president’s so-called “kill list.”

“The president, himself, has become judge, jury and executioner around the world,” said Kuznick.

The gloomy vision provided by both Stone and Kuznick during the interview prompted Stone to, at one point, jokingly ask, “You’re depressed by hearing us? I understand…”

Despite their critiques of the current administration, both still adopted a “best of two evils” attitude towards Obama.

“I believe he has a heart, I do,” said Stone. “But what follows him? He’ll be out of office in four years. Who’s going to be in office in 2020 when the weapons are worse? If another administration comes in like the Bush or Romney administration, what’s to prevent them from using these weapons in a far more sinister way?”

“I see more potential in Obama, as critical as I am,” said Kuznick. “I don’t believe that’s truly his essence and his soul. I think if we mobilized forces and pushed him the right direction, he’d be happy to be pushed.”

“The Untold History of the United States” has also been turned into a docu-series for Showtime, with the first installment airing Monday.

Read more:

The series commences its premier season on Showtime – 12th Nov 2012 in the USA – link to screening times

I’m a fan of Oliver Stone, his branding, and his story telling through movies.  Movies like his 1986 Best Picture movie – “Platoon”, starring Charlie Sheen, and his 1991 Oscar nominated movie “JFK” starring Kevin Costner, has proved his keen interest in, knowledge of, and his attention to detail about American Politics.

The TV series should be a great show for those who love political history.

Election Fraud:

This 2012 election result, called as a 50/50 outcome on the morning of the election, proved yet again how the electorate responds on election day as opposed to pollsters and the questions they ask to guide poll outcome data during an election campaign.   The length of the USA Presidential election is almost two years and it is a marathon of marathons.  There is plenty of time for mistakes and to overcome errors, all it takes is money to but votes and the good old american dream is alive and well when everybody gets a piece of the election money gravy ride.

GOP donator’s have a right to question how their funds were used, and the belief that they had a shot of rolling Obama bled them dry of new donations.   Should they be allowed to ask for a refund given the landslide victory and how the donator’s were misled – of course not – ‘all-in’ as they say.

Surely the Legislators need to take a good hard look and how the $6 billion spend to win is justified.   That equated to $50 a vote for the 120 million voters who lodged a vote.

In Australia the AEC refunds $2.41 per electoral vote pledged.

It is obviously not as simple as suggested – but when poll data suggests a neck and neck struggle, and a result comes up as a landslide – one has to ask if the poll data was skewered toward a close contest to entice more funding donations.

It can be likened to the cause and effect of the GFC – ratings agencies and their complicity in providing AAA ratings for ‘sub-prime’ assets in exchange for financial favours, gave everybody a comfort in investing in those ‘sub-prime’ assets.   This Sub-Prime fiasco It was a fraud – and to suggest the Campaign Managers created fraudulent poll results to create larger funding donations might not be too far from the mark.

It’s called a ‘sucker-play’ – and as each and every election rolls by – the Political Parties just keep spending the money asked for and donated by voters without accountable or responsible outcomes.

Poof … another $6 billion gone – what outcome has changed – the HOR remains the same under GOP rule – the Senate remains with Obama – a few changes to Governorships, but the end result is more or less the same –  yet the world was led to believe that an Obama victory was at best an even money bet.

Someone, or a great number of someone’s got it horrible wrong … and as always the poor plebs out there in electoral land paid twice – first the money they donated, and then their hopes and dreams went … Poof …

At least when you buy a lottery ticket you know someone has to win – in a two-horse race someone has to lose … but to try and make it sound like a close race is to give heart-break to almost 60 million people who put their heart and soul into Romney … someone deceived them …

America have had an escape from the reality of their fate during this election campaign – now that party is over, the problems that were there before the election campaign are now again front and center and in need of urgent attention.

The political landscape has not improved the chances in ways to help get done what has to be done.

The Tea Party faction was hell-bent in preventing the measures Obama wanted to legislate during his previous term hoping it would improve their electoral chances in 2012.

What will they do now that America has rejected them and stuck with Obama ?

American Politicians now have their own fate to deal with and unless they do – the World will punish them … Government spending and bail-out packages is about to come to an abrupt end and the money men on Wall Street sold the markets in the immediate session following Obama’s win – that was a sure signal and the Government is on notice by Global Money Managers.

Obama has to lead – he can no longer pussy foot around – he has to seize the moment and grasp the GOP with both hands – drag the Republicans screaming and kicking to the table and lay down the law.

He has to listen and carry the day else all America will fall.  He has to stop spending money, stop bailing out industries that chew up the aid and allow the industry fat-cats to continue to drink from the public money pot.

Obama needs a squad of ‘Hog Shooters’ to lighten the load on the public purse – lean and mean and if the electorate can see the middle and upper management types shunted from the public service – and more on the ground staffers employed – America can have hope they can turn it all around.

If they don’t then the ‘slow-drag’ interest cost on their public debt, the welfare spend, the pension costs, ad the hopes of a whole generation will  free fall over the cliff-edge and into an abyss none of us want to know about.

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  1. Gerry Hatrick
    November 10, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    The S & P 500 has now retraced 3.5% of this years gains since close of trade Tuesday. The annual gain was 11.5%, it is now 8.0%. Something i heard (mostly likely out of context) if Mitt had won could the States afford the Civil War that would have ensued?

    The college vote system result was not proportionate to the popular voting which means somewhere between,
    the system is biased against the Republicans, to the
    Republicans are out of touch (the Democrats have got the winning of elections.sown up)
    Romney lost amongst Women voters and Hispanic voters. According to recent trends, this is likely to get worse by 2016. Of course there are mid terms in 2014 to be considered.

    Today as the States tries to address the so called “fiscal cliff” there is grand standing regarding the starting point. Obama says tax hikes are mandatory.

    I loved the quote above “The president, himself, has become judge, jury and executioner around the world,” said Kuznick. This has also started to come out in other ways, that is Obama acts as if his too clever to work with Congress. Maybe his first debate appearance was this same lack of engagement. He is an excellent orator, but not able to close a deal.

    Despite the S & P closing slightly up Friday being well in the money I am staying short. I can’t tell what will cause me to take profit.

    On Tuesday night Alan Kohler on his Eureka page was running with the bulls. By Friday he is now running with the bears noting the ASX 200 has now fallen below the 200 day moving average. I would love to see the American indices performance correlation to the presidential campaign opinion polls. In the end as Eyeball said 6 billion campaign gambled on a change, with no real change at all. A minimum of 2 years of more of the same.

    One thing I consider absolute rubbish is Jeb Bush being the answer because G W bush got 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. The Republican brand is rubbish because of G W Bush, sad part is the wanton airy fairy ways of the president don’t seem to produce the answers.

    That is a direct parallel to Australia. But our choice is much closer in time

  2. Gerry Hatrick
    November 16, 2012 at 7:59 am

    So far this week the S & P has fallen a further 1.8% bringing cumulative losses to 5.3% since Obama re took the White House. I am now wondering why Obama is so emphatic about tax rises when bi-partisan logics dictate a more conciliatory stand. This trench warfare contributes to Wall St’s mood. Nothing is changing. Philosophical debate means more storm clouds above. I tend to see financial cliff as a media beat up. Much like Y2K virus. Henny Penny and her Sky is falling. Worst part is; it is not being addressed head on.

    I remain short the index, but am now ready to lock in part profit. A relief rally due to thanksgiving will be short, if it appears at all. There will be substantial further losses before year end but timing them is not so easy. The Bears now have very strong momentum, therefore as you approach each weekend the shorts lightening their day trades is most apparent.

    The Dow tried so hard to get some strength into today’s close, ASX will possibly have an up day.

  3. Gerry Hatrick
    November 26, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    I am now fully short again. Timing is difficult. I am not absolutely certain. It is about the capacity to stimulate fiscally.

    The S & P 500 has now recovered 57 index points since my last call. It is now down 1.4% since the re election of Obama.

    The S & P ASX 200 is less volatile and lagging. The economic issues are less direct, much more secondary. Australian fundamentals look better. You will get better result from S & P 500 rather than the Aussie Index. On the last down leg S & P 500 was down 5.3% and the Aussie Index a bit over 4.1%. That includes the false rally when Obama was making his victory speech.

    As we run up to Christmas the lack of agreement on Capitol Hill will deafen very soon. Since last Tuesday the Thanksgiving rally has cut all shorts, and just re establishing shorts over today will give a bearish tone.

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